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Disney Believe
Mar 22, 2026
Disney Believe is the fourth ship in the Wish class, set to debut in late 2027. This ship aims to encapsulate the essence of believing in your dreams, making it a perfect addition to Disney's fleet. The announcement of this new ship has already sparked excitement among Disney fans, especially with its promise of new experiences and adventures.
In this episode of Daps Travels, Mr. Daps and Johnny discuss what is known about the Disney Believe. They also discuss what isn't known. They also speculate about what could be coming to the Disney Believe. Join the conversation in the comments, on social media, or https://dapsmagic.com/dapshq as we geek out about the Disney Believe and Disney Cruise Line! Share your thoughts and predictions with us and join the discussion!
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Welcome to Daps Travels, the first
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episode where you can see us. I'm Mr.
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Daps and I'm here with Johnny. And uh
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hopefully you are
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watching us. I mean, you could be just
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good rating because that helps us be
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seen and heard. And what else? I don't
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know what else do we usually say.
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>> I mean, I think that was it.
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>> Okay. All all the main things. But, uh,
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it is an exciting time for travel news
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and all the excitement stuff. And we
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have a ton of things that we're going to
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cover in future episodes. But this week,
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it's all about Disney Believe. And that
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is going to be the next ship coming from
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the Disney Cruise Line. One of 13 ships
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to be created by Disney, I guess you
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could call it. Yippee. And uh, we were
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immediately texting. In fact, I think I
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broke the news to you because I think I
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texted you.
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>> I was I was literally at work and you
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messaged me the name of the ship and my
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exact response was, "What?"
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>> And then you said, "New ship." And then
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I freaked out.
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>> Mhm. Well, cuz I'm also live blogging at
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the same time. I'm like, "Johnny cares
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about
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>> You were literally doing everything."
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And then I immediately stopped what I
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was doing. And then I went ahead and
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looked at the parks blog announcement
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and then I proceeded to cry at that
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little video that they put together for
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it because you know what? They DCL
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marketing is like next level. I I don't
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know what they do. I don't know what
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pixie dust they put in there, but every
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single ad that I see from Disney Cruise
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Line is just gut-wrenching, emotional,
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beautiful, and it makes me want to book
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a cruise.
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>> Well, especially after that one they
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released, was it a week or two ago? The
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the walking in the middle of the night?
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>> And that's the one that they replaced on
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their website now. Their website now has
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that playing
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>> as they should. I would be putting that
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everywhere. Put it on TV. Like it's an
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amazing ad. And having never been on a
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Disney cruise line even I was just like,
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"Oh, that that I get that." Like cuz I
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do that on other cruise ships, but
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>> Disney's Disney, so that that makes all
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the difference in the world. Um, let's
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talk real quick the announcement video.
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What did you think as you were watching
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this? Like other than you're crying, but
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you know, I mean, first off, I was
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crying. Second of all, I was honestly
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going through seeing all the different
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characters, all the different IPs that
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they had in there that they worked into
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that. I was really surprised. I do have
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to give credit where credit's due,
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though. I love how they incorporated
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every single ship name into that little
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monologue that they had for it because
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one of my favorite things to do is to go
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ahead and create just like a fun little
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thing using all I've done that with my
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friends before they just use every
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single ship name whatnot.
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>> I like how they incorporated that in
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there and how they all ended where like
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it happens if you just and then that was
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the ship reveal.
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>> Yeah,
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>> I thought that was good, too. A lot of
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the IPs that they showcased in there, I
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think it could be alluding to the fact
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that they might be incorporated on the
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ship. Some of them I'm a little I don't
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want to say concerned, but I'm a little
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confused about. Well, and let's let's
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really quickly I'll read down the list
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of all of the IPs that were either
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announced or in the video. So, you have
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Encantto, you have Frozen, which was
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also Frozen 2, Moana, The Little
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Mermaid, Snow White, and the Seven
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Dwarfs. And then in the video, it also
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referenced Tangled Inside Out, which was
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really Inside Out 2, I think. Iron Man,
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Monsters, Inc., Zootopia 2, Mickey
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Mouse, and Fa Fantasia, which I loved.
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Star Wars specifically. I think though
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we should note the Millennium Falcon,
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Toy Story, The Nightmare Before
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Christmas, and Guardians of the Galaxy.
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All right, back to the video.
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Again, some of those I don't really see
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being very cohesive with the entire
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thing of obviously it's like when you
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think of believe, you think of like
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believing in your dreams that come true
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and everything like that. It doesn't
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>> I don't know necessarily a great example
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how Guardians of the Galaxy fits in with
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that, but you know, weirder things have
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happened.
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the I'm I'm literally spinning my brain
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right now of of like well it could be
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the um
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>> I mean like a great example I can think
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of is just like you have the Disney wish
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which beautiful ship the whole theme
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about it is after enchantment and
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castles and right off the grand hall you
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have Star Wars Hyperspace Lounge.
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>> Yeah. So it might be one of those.
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>> So do you suppose it would be like the
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kids area or something?
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>> Maybe. I think what it is, they probably
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are alluding to the fact that a lot of
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these so a lot of these IPs that they
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did lists that are in there are already
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incorporated on in on a lot of Disney
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Cruise Line ships. So you have like Iron
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Man, you have the Marvel area in the
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Oceaner Club, Toy Story, you have the
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Toy Story splash pad that's on every
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ship. Guardians of the Galaxy again in
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the Marvel themed area for um
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>> So the Toy Story splash pad is in every
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ship.
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>> To the best of my knowledge, it's in
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every ship. I mean, I'm going to find
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out in a week if it's on the magic.
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>> You're very close.
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>> But when it was on the Wonder, I saw an
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area like that. The fantasy had it. The
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wish had it. And I think that's what
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they use for a lot of their kid-friendly
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stuff on the ships just because it's
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it's small. It's just easy for kids to
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go ahead and have fun with.
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>> That makes sense. Um, so watch the
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video. You learned that really the
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Disney Believe is all about kind of
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pursuing believing you can pursue the
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dream and then actually doing it. Is
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that a good way to put it? Um, this is
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the fourth in the Wish class ship.
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>> Yes, this is the fourth.
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>> So, let's very quickly go through, you
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kind of hit on on Disney Wish, but let's
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go very quickly through the highlights
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of the three before it. So, start with
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Disney Wish.
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>> Yeah. So, like I said before, the Wish
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is theme is about enchantment. You walk
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into the Grand Hall and it feels like
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you're walking into this floating castle
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on the sea. Cinderella is the Grand Hall
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statue over there. It just feels very
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magical, very whimsical, very
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quintessential Disney.
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>> Very Castle Park.
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>> Mhm. No, exactly. Like it feels like
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>> it feels like you're walking into a
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floating at sea version of Magic Kingdom
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Park
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>> other than Treasures, the one with the
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or not Treasure, Adventures, the one
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with the the castle,
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>> the little castle. And then you have the
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Disney Treasure, which is themed after
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adventure. So, you walk into the Grand
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Hall and you see this beautiful themed
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kind of like Moroccan style chandelier
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with the different hanging pendants that
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are supposed to represent each ship in
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the Disney Cruise Line fleet at the time
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that the ship debuted. You have Aladdin.
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>> Hey, maybe.
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>> I think it'd be cool.
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>> Hey, maybe in a dry dock.
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>> Yeah, there you go.
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>> But then you have Aladdin and Jasmine
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flying on their magic carpet right next
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to where the staircase is in the grand
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hall. And it's just this again that it
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embodies that sense of adventure because
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especially when you think of Aladdin and
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the whole movie they're very
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adventurous. Oh yeah. And whatnot.
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>> And then you have the Disney Destiny
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which is themed after heroes and
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villains. And walking into that ship,
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you can immediately tell right then and
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there it is very much inspired inspired
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inspired.
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>> It's a new word off of a lot of the
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different Marvel stories and everything
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like that. from the Black Panther statue
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that they have in the lobby to the
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beautiful Grand Hall chandelier that's
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supposed to look like I think it's what
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I don't know what it's called in Black
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Panther the material that they use or
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whatnot but it's supposed to resemble
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that. Um, well, you have all these
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different themes and especially the wish
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class really transformed Disney Cruise
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Line from being a very classic
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quintessential oceanliner type
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experience to where you have that subtle
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Disney magic imbued with the luxury of
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an ocean liner to now being something
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very Disney forward and where a lot of
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the storytelling comes place because
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Disney is a company that is foundational
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pieces storytelling. Well, and it's
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innovative storytelling too. It seems
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like you think of the different
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storytelling devices they use on the
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Destiny of you're sneaking in this
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doorway and magic tricks, you know, like
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it's and then the lighting and the the
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special effects like they've leaned into
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storytelling in the way that only Disney
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does that you see normally in nighttime
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spectaculars or shows or even
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attractions. They're using that magic
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technology in ways that other cruise
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lines aren't necessarily
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doing yet.
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>> Yeah. I mean, even on the treasure, you
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have Sage and Coriander who are like the
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storytellers that go throughout the
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entire voyage and kind of like explain
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you like the different Disney park
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stories. Like they have like a Jungle
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Cruise bit that they do too. And they
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have a bunch of cool stuff for the
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adults only entertainment that they have
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at different venues on the ship. And on
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the Destiny, they have Zia and Gamble
8:40
who essentially do the same thing but
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with the Marvel twist because that ship
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is very heavily leaned into the Marvel
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theming over there. So,
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>> but they don't have the storytellers on
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the wish.
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>> I think so. I think the wish debuted was
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something akin to like the minstrels
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that they have because you do have a
8:56
couple special characters on board
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there.
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>> It's just really hard to do on the wish
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because it only does three and four
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night sailings.
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>> Oh, so you don't until you don't have
9:04
the time. Okay, interesting. Uh, so we
9:06
have those three ships now. We have the
9:08
believe coming which
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let's very quickly do you remember what
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are the original shows in like the stage
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shows for the other ships
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>> for all of them or just the wish
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>> just the three the wish we
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>> on the wish you're going to have well
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all three of the wish class ships are
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going to have sees the adventure as one
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of their shows that's exclusive to the
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wish class and wish class wish class
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words are hard
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>> it's okay
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>> that's going to be exclusive to that
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class of ship and the Disney Adventure.
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>> Mhm.
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>> On the wish, you also in addition have
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Aladdin and the Little Mermaid.
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On the Disney treasure, if I am correct,
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it is going to be Beauty and the Beast
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and Moana.
9:50
And on the Disney Destiny, you are going
9:52
to have Hercules in addition to Frozen.
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That's what I was thinking through is I
9:58
wasn't confident enough to be like, "Oh,
9:59
yeah, these are the ones on there." But
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that sounds right. So, as we're looking
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at the Disney belief, let's start with
10:04
this and let's prognosticate. We know
10:06
nothing. Like, nobody knows anything
10:08
yet.
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>> I mean, we know a name.
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>> We know a name. And we know it's Wish
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class,
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>> correct?
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>> And we we have a rough timeline like
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sometime late 2027, the ship will
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arrive.
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>> We'll probably figure out more stuff
10:20
than August.
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>> Yeah. I I hope so. I mean, we'll
10:23
probably figure out stuff beforehand
10:25
because we'll be like watching every
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release they give us and every photo,
10:29
whatever, cuz this is what we text about
10:31
most of the time. But um so the
10:34
highlighted franchises in the
10:36
announcement were Encanto, Frozen,
10:38
Moana, Little Mermaid, and Snow White
10:40
and the Seven Dwarfs. Do you think and
10:43
and my guess is Encanto is the new stage
10:46
show that they're adding to?
10:49
>> I don't think so. What do you think it's
10:51
going to be?
10:51
>> I think Encanto is going to be the stage
10:54
show for rotational dining.
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>> Uh
10:56
>> I think Ento is going to take place at
10:58
where Arendelle is.
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>> That makes sense. So what do you think
11:00
is going to be stage show? That actually
11:02
I like that idea. That would be really
11:04
fun.
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>> I think the stage show is either going
11:08
to be an updated version of Frozen.
11:11
>> Okay.
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>> Because they have Frozen on three.
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>> So that would be one of them. They'll
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get Let's assume they get seized. Seize
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the day.
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>> Oh, it's Yeah, they're going to get se
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the adventure. No question.
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>> Or sees the adventure. Sees the
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adventure.
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>> Yeah. Okay.
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>> And it sees stuff like
11:25
>> I remember that part cuz it's the cute
11:27
like Yeah. Um, so let's say sees the
11:29
adventure, updated Frozen, and then
11:32
what's I feel like they get a unique
11:33
show for each.
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>> I want to say we might get something
11:38
akin to maybe Snow White.
11:40
>> As much as I like a new
11:42
>> my I think it's either it might be a
11:43
Snow White stage show or I think we are
11:46
going to get a Snow White version of the
11:49
Grand Hall.
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>> Oh, I could see that.
11:51
>> I think my money for the third show I'm
11:53
not really sure on. So, my question is,
11:55
would they have Patrick Stewart once
11:57
again voicing the magic mirror?
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>> Hey, maybe.
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>> Why? I love that.
12:02
>> It made me It made me think of that,
12:04
too, cuz seeing on the Disney adventure
12:05
how they have Snow White and her wishing
12:07
well and she is, for lack of better
12:09
words, the statue,
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>> right,
12:12
>> that's over there because the Disney
12:14
Adventure doesn't really have a
12:16
dedicated atrium space.
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>> So, here's my next question then. If
12:18
they've already used up Snow White,
12:20
let's use like if she's already in the
12:23
adventure,
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what is the next choice?
12:29
Is it Little Mermaid?
12:31
>> Little Mermaid
12:31
>> for the atrium.
12:33
>> Ariel's already the statue in the Disney
12:34
Wonder.
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>> Oh, you're right. See, this is the
12:37
problem when you haven't actually seen
12:38
them is is like I think it could either
12:40
go with Moana or possibly Frozen. I can
12:43
definitely see them doing a Frozen
12:44
inspired Grand Hall as well. That would
12:46
be so pretty
12:47
>> because again you have that story about
12:49
believing in what can happen and what
12:51
better thing that than with Anna and
12:53
Elser Elser. Anna and Elsa and the bond
12:56
that they have as sisters showcasing
12:58
what the power of sisterhood and what
12:59
the power of
13:00
>> true love but not in a romantic fashion.
13:04
>> Yeah.
13:04
>> What that power can unhold.
13:06
>> I like that. I think that could be a
13:09
very very good inspiration for
13:11
>> frozen statue which there's some jokes
13:14
we could make about that and then Snow
13:17
White stage show
13:19
>> possibly. Yeah.
13:19
>> And maybe like Enkanto I think Encanto
13:22
dining just sounds like so
13:23
>> the Encanto dining room definitely
13:25
sounds good too.
13:27
>> Well because again you kind of have that
13:28
tied in with the storyline of Enkanto.
13:31
Yeah
13:31
>> where you have if I'm correct it's
13:32
Mirabel's mom that can make anything and
13:34
it has the healing powers. It'd be
13:36
fantastic and just the energy for that
13:39
like you think of we just had was it
13:41
Lion King
13:42
>> for uh
13:44
>> the destiny.
13:45
>> Destiny, right?
13:45
>> Lion King on the Destiny. We have Coco
13:48
on the treasure.
13:48
>> Also very spirited and energetic in the
13:51
music.
13:51
>> And what's Wish have?
13:53
>> Arendelle.
13:54
>> Yeah. See, all of these this makes sense
13:56
to me. Um I think that would be very fun
13:58
as they're moving. Um a very popular
14:02
highlight of staying on a Disney cruise.
14:04
Also, it's the rooms. So, as we're
14:07
looking at these
14:09
>> different IP that we have, which rooms,
14:13
what are there usually a couple? How
14:14
many different themes they have?
14:16
>> They have a with the wish class, you
14:18
have a variety of different themes. I
14:19
want to say you have around like seven
14:22
to eight different ones because it
14:23
basically goes deck by deck. Each deck
14:25
is
14:25
>> Oh, two different ones.
14:28
>> That's cool. So, I could definitely see
14:31
Inside Out, Tangled,
14:34
>> Nightmare Before Christmas,
14:35
>> Monsters Inc.,
14:36
>> Monsters Inc. Zootopia. I can go ahead
14:39
and see a lot of those themes there.
14:40
>> Can you imagine a hallway for Monsters
14:41
Inc.? What you could do with that?
14:43
>> Mhm.
14:43
>> Like, that would be so fun.
14:45
>> Looking at the notes that we have here,
14:46
I want to tie back to the theme of the
14:48
Grand Hall.
14:49
>> I think Mickey Mouse and Fantasia also
14:52
is a good possibility for something that
14:55
you could have inspired in the Grand
14:56
Hall as the atrium. Oh yeah,
14:58
>> especially when you think of the color
15:00
scheme of Fantasia. Fant Fantasia, you
15:02
have a lot of like those royal colors, a
15:04
lot of gold, a lot of dark blues, like
15:06
Sorcerer and Mickey wearing, everything
15:08
just
15:10
>> very quintessential Disney. And even
15:12
though the dream class ships have their
15:14
tower suite that is themed after
15:16
Fantasia, I think this is a good way to
15:18
incorporate
15:20
incorporate that into
15:22
what could be a very energetic high
15:26
energy area of the ship because the
15:28
Grand Hall has the stage
15:29
>> where you have different events going on
15:31
throughout the ship. You have like
15:32
entertainment in the evening over there.
15:33
I think it would just be really nice to
15:35
have that representation over there,
15:36
especially because Disney loves being
15:37
able to put Mickey Mouse wherever.
15:39
Mickey Mouse is the statue on the Disney
15:41
Magic, but that's Houndsman Mickey, so
15:43
different than Sorcerer Mickey.
15:45
>> True. Why not then? Like I think the
15:48
possibilities are there. Uh,
15:51
so this is going to be the last of the
15:54
wish class.
15:56
>> Kind of kind of well for technical
16:00
Disney cruise. Is that what we say? Tech
16:02
for technically for ships owned by
16:04
Disney Cruise Line.
16:05
>> Yes. Cuz I thought it was very
16:06
interesting in the the press release
16:10
they called the the Oriental Land
16:12
Company cruise as a Disney Cruise
16:15
vacation with the sea of cruise of
16:18
Disney Cruise Vacation lowercase. So
16:20
there's a distinct you can read it right
16:22
there actually. Um and I had it up so in
16:25
case you wanted to notice this too. But
16:26
like to me that was such a everywhere
16:28
else in the press release it's Disney
16:30
Cruise Line with the D, C, and the L all
16:33
uh all uppercase. And then right there
16:37
when you get to Orion Lang Company, it's
16:39
Disney Cruise Vacations with the C and
16:41
the V lowercase, which I think
16:44
>> kind of reinforces what we're already
16:46
saying.
16:47
>> I mean, I think it's again one of those
16:49
ownership interest things where OLC is
16:51
going to have the majority ownership
16:52
interest in that vessel. So Disney is
16:55
more so going to have the creative
16:56
control over that.
16:57
>> I also wonder if there's like a Japan
17:01
rule or something, you know, like there
17:02
could be a possibility that a legal
17:04
thing in as well. But I I totally I
17:06
totally think you're right on that. Um
17:09
and that'll be an interesting
17:12
>> thing on its own,
17:13
>> but not necessarily part of the official
17:16
Cruise Line fleet or Disney cruise line
17:18
fleet. I don't Yeah, I don't I don't
17:20
think they're going to have that and
17:22
they're going to include it in their
17:23
advertising for what they're doing and
17:25
whatnot because this definitely seems to
17:26
be a special oneoff because
17:28
>> yeah,
17:29
>> I don't think OLC even knows. I don't
17:32
think Disney knows how successful this
17:33
venture might be or whatnot. So,
17:35
>> I don't know. Like, it'll be it'll be
17:37
interesting to see because I'm seeing
17:38
more and more uh cruises being emailed
17:41
to me of like, oh, we're going out of
17:43
Yokohama. And I'm like, oh, I know where
17:44
Yokohama is. So, like it's possible that
17:46
they're discovering a market that's
17:49
really opening up, but also all the
17:51
ships I saw when I was over there seemed
17:53
older and smaller. So, maybe they're
17:55
recognizing that there's something that
17:57
they can they can blend into. Um, as
18:00
you're thinking about the fourth and the
18:03
wish class, do you think there's
18:05
anything that they're going to
18:09
change in a big way or are they going to
18:12
kind of go, hey, these all have worked
18:14
relatively well from what we've learned
18:17
from Wish to like as we've moved up,
18:19
we're going to take it to the next step,
18:21
but we're not going to make any major
18:22
changes
18:24
like adding escalators. I don't think
18:27
they can because space is just
18:29
>> well because especially if it's the same
18:32
class of ship. There's only so much you
18:35
can do structurally speaking especially
18:38
considering the feedback that they have
18:40
gotten regarding this class.
18:43
You can't really go ahead and reroute
18:45
all of your lounges and have those be in
18:47
an adult only area. You can't go ahead
18:49
and adjust where actually you could
18:51
probably adjust where the quiet cove is,
18:53
>> but it's hard to go ahead and move all
18:55
of those individual spaces around,
18:56
especially because
18:57
>> do you think you're dealing with the
18:59
same structure? The only thing that's
19:00
different is going to be the thematic
19:01
aspect of it.
19:02
>> So, do you think there's anything that
19:03
you'll go in and be very surprised about
19:05
that they could change that would make
19:07
it easier to cruise on or easier to walk
19:09
around or whatever?
19:11
>> I don't think so. I mean, me,
19:14
>> this is just my opinion and this is
19:15
probably going to be a hot take.
19:16
>> Oh, good. My hot take. Nice. People
19:19
complain about the wish class too much.
19:22
>> I think that's fair.
19:23
>> I'm talking about everybody that's a
19:24
seasoned Disney Cruise Liner. Sorry, I
19:26
don't mean to be calling you out, but
19:28
Disney fans inherently don't like
19:30
change.
19:31
>> I'm I'm a Disney fan that inherently
19:33
doesn't like change, so to believe it.
19:35
>> Change the change and then it's a
19:36
problem again. Um, I agree with you on
19:38
that. But
19:40
I think I can speak for everybody that
19:42
sails DCL that the magic, wonder, dream,
19:46
and fantasy are fantastic vessels.
19:47
They're beautiful. The wish is still a
19:50
beautiful vessel.
19:52
It is just different from those four in
19:55
such a drastic way that a lot of people
19:58
have it in their mind where it should be
20:00
like this and because it isn't, it's
20:02
bad. So the familiarity factor was not
20:04
there. So automatically it's like
20:06
correct,
20:07
>> I don't know what to do. And again, I
20:09
sailed on all three classes of ships.
20:10
I'm actually sailing on the original,
20:12
the Disney Magic next week.
20:14
>> We will be talking about soon.
20:15
>> Well, yes. Yes.
20:18
>> But I don't see a lot of these issues
20:20
that a lot of guests talk about. Yes, it
20:22
might be mildly annoying that there is a
20:25
lack of midship elevators. Yes, the
20:27
layout of the ship might not seem as
20:29
cohesive in comparison to the Dream or
20:31
the Fantasy, but it isn't inherently bad
20:34
because it gives you an opportunity for
20:36
a different type of guest experience.
20:37
Mhm. The one thing that I can say too,
20:39
yeah, it might be weird that the lounges
20:42
aren't in their own space, but coming
20:44
from somebody that enjoys walking around
20:46
and exploring, I kind of like getting
20:48
lost and seeing all these different
20:51
lounges and going through all these
20:52
different spaces and actually getting to
20:55
explore the ship and kind of charting my
20:57
own course instead of knowing that,
20:59
okay, so everything is here in Europa.
21:01
Here's going to be this little cluster
21:02
of bars. I know where it's at, but I
21:04
like wandering around and seeing where
21:06
everything is. Speaking of wandering
21:08
around and exploring things, they've
21:09
done a fantastic job, I feel like, with
21:12
their piano bars
21:14
in the different ships. Most recently,
21:16
we've had Kella
21:18
>> in Devilles and and like that sounds
21:20
amazing. And the one before that was
21:25
>> Scat Cat.
21:26
>> That's right. And then before that,
21:28
>> I don't remember what they had in the
21:29
>> Nighting Gales.
21:30
>> Okay, there we go. Good job. Um,
21:33
prediction.
21:35
What could you do for belief?
21:40
Now, this one
21:43
honestly kind of this might sound a bit
21:44
redundant, but tying back into that Snow
21:46
White environment because I saw you kind
21:50
of like in the forest or something.
21:52
>> Exactly. Cuz I saw what they did with
21:54
Spellbound. It's either going to be that
21:55
or Snow White might be the lounge that
21:58
they have in the middle where the
21:59
Sanctum, Skipper Society, and Bayou are
22:01
where it's an open air concept.
22:04
But I can definitely see Snow White also
22:06
having a very intimate style lounge over
22:09
there. And you kind of have this bit
22:12
going in with the evil queen coming in
22:14
like how you have with Kella over at
22:16
Kella's and then Snow White coming in
22:17
there and just having this entire little
22:20
small intimate entertainment setup in
22:22
there. I can definitely see that.
22:24
>> I could see that. I also wonder if you
22:26
could do something with Little Mermaid.
22:29
>> I would love that. It just popped into
22:31
my head is like what if you
22:32
>> actually I can I can absolutely see that
22:34
you can still
22:35
>> you can kind of have the bar self theme
22:37
to Atlantica
22:39
>> and all the
22:40
>> like there's a lot of possib that would
22:41
be
22:42
>> that's a great thing though is you look
22:43
at they what is it six five IPs that
22:47
they basically say are on the ship for
22:49
sure
22:51
snow white Moana and Little Mermaid and
22:53
then you have all these other ones and
22:55
the possibilities really are endless
22:57
with how diverse this list is and and
23:01
like the rest of the IPs, we don't know
23:03
if they're anything beyond a oh, this
23:05
clip fit and it helps tell the narrative
23:07
we're telling about this this ship and
23:09
we haven't nailed down or maybe they
23:11
have decided and and these are things
23:13
that are going to appear, but they
23:14
haven't announced that at all. It just
23:16
was in a video. But when you think about
23:18
it, like you could have so much fun.
23:21
Like I I just did the the uh Royal
23:24
Caribbean Quantum of the Sea and they
23:26
have their robotic bar, whatever it's
23:28
called, Bionic Bar, whatever.
23:30
>> And like can you imagine a Disney
23:32
version of Bionic Bar that's inside out?
23:35
>> It'd be hilarious. Like there's so many
23:37
different possibilities of storytelling
23:39
that you could do. Zootopia like 2 is is
23:42
the one that's big right now. I feel
23:44
like that's probably going to be
23:45
represented one way or another fairly
23:48
strongly just because when you have the
23:50
most successful animated feature in
23:52
Hollywood, you're going to throw it
23:53
places. Um, but there's possibilities
23:56
for that too, like from different parts
23:59
of the story or different characters or
24:01
whatever. I don't know that that would
24:02
be a dining thing. It could be a bar,
24:05
but maybe
24:05
>> I think Zootopia honestly would be
24:07
something more so because I'm trying to
24:09
think how you can create like a large
24:11
theme space like that. They already have
24:12
it as Jumbo Sweets on the treasure.
24:14
>> Oh, there you go. So, they have that,
24:15
but I'm trying to think of something
24:16
that accurately represents what Zootopia
24:21
is without trying to shoehorn it into
24:22
fitting into
24:24
>> think also though that um Did you see
24:25
Zootopia 2?
24:26
>> I have not yet.
24:27
>> Okay. You need to see it cuz there's a
24:29
scene where they kind of go into this
24:30
like club thing that's down kind of in a
24:33
bayou feeling thing. I'm like I feel
24:35
like there's potential with that. Um,
24:38
and then they have the there's like a
24:40
big parties. Like there's actually some
24:43
things that you could almost have
24:45
connected with different stories where
24:47
it could be like, oh, it's Zootopia now
24:49
and it's Princess and the Frog later,
24:52
you know, whatever. I don't know. Um,
24:53
both were in the Bay, so they popped
24:55
into my head. But, um, but like I think
24:58
there's possibilities with these stories
24:59
that you could kind of flip what we're
25:03
expecting. And in Monsters, Inc., Like
25:06
there's so much happening with Monsters,
25:08
Inc. that I feel like is going to be
25:10
something even if it's just a a light
25:12
moment or something in the in the uh the
25:15
grand hall.
25:16
>> Mhm.
25:17
>> And and then Mike and Soulie show up,
25:19
you know, like I don't know. Um no, I I
25:22
definitely see that. And especially cuz
25:24
inherently when I think of the theme of
25:25
the ship, which is out of promise and
25:27
possibilities, I inherently think of a
25:29
lot of those stories that are very
25:32
>> like princess driven. I also think the
25:33
story is like brave
25:36
>> and everything like that where it's like
25:37
pursuing.
25:38
>> Yeah. It's like pursuing your dream and
25:39
again it's like they have different ties
25:41
to everything because Hercules as much
25:42
as it fits in with this also fits in the
25:45
archetype of heroes and villains because
25:46
it's very the hero versus villain
25:48
dynamic there.
25:49
>> Well, the thing I love about believe is
25:53
the the premise of optimism. Like this
25:56
is such a forwardlooking thing. It's
25:59
something that's very uplifting and
26:01
positive and and I think that's going to
26:04
be interesting because whereas Destiny
26:08
is like let's take both sides and put
26:11
them on the ship, you know, we're going
26:12
to have the good guys and the bad guys,
26:14
you know, the heroes and villains, all
26:16
that stuff. This to me is much more of a
26:19
like we're going to fill this ship with
26:22
uplifting stories of overcoming
26:25
whatever it was to pursue that dream. I
26:28
think that's an interesting thing that's
26:30
different also because when you think of
26:34
believe versus wish, there's a sense of
26:38
with believe, uh, the person made it
26:41
happen. So like Mickey goes and decides,
26:44
hey, I'm going to put the hat on and I'm
26:45
going to go make this happen.
26:47
>> Frozen Elsa's like, oh no, I'm going to
26:50
go be myself and I'm going to go climb
26:52
up the mountain and make my ice cast.
26:54
you know, like there's a definite um
26:58
sense of purpose as opposed to a a snap
27:01
of magic kind of a thing.
27:03
>> It's like I one is more so it's like
27:05
that is your dream. That's what you
27:07
aspire for and that's what you're
27:08
actually actively working towards and it
27:10
shows
27:11
>> you go through the process of that. you
27:13
go through the trials and tribulations
27:14
where
27:16
>> I think of that too where it's kind of
27:17
just like when you think of Wish the
27:19
Grand Cinderella and Cinderella was kind
27:21
of just like oh again with like
27:23
>> the snap of the fingers I'm going to go
27:25
to the ball and everything like that
27:26
like everything fell into place
27:28
>> and there's nothing wrong with that it's
27:29
just it's a different type of story.
27:31
>> Yeah, it's exactly it's a different type
27:34
of story.
27:35
I think with what they announced for the
27:38
ship so far too, I think this is
27:40
probably going to be the best of the
27:42
wish class ships. No questions asked.
27:44
>> Don't you think it's interesting, too,
27:45
as we were just saying this, you think
27:48
of the wish and it's kind of, let's say,
27:51
phase one Disney storytelling.
27:53
>> Oh, absolutely.
27:54
>> Then you go to treasure next and it's
27:57
kind of phase two. Like you look at how
27:59
this is going through. That's
28:01
essentially what they've done pretty
28:02
much all of their ships too because you
28:04
have
28:04
>> the magic and the wonder as example. A
28:06
lot of people view the wonder
28:09
>> in some aspects as a better version of
28:11
the magic because of what they learned
28:13
from it, the things they change and
28:14
everything like that cuz it's the second
28:16
ship. Same with the dream and the
28:17
fantasy. The dream was concept.
28:19
>> I guess my question though is the
28:20
stories that they pull and the themes
28:22
they pull, are those from a different
28:24
part of the the history of Disney?
28:27
Because what I'm saying is you look at
28:29
Wish and it's kind of the classic Disney
28:32
fairy tale
28:33
>> and then you look at Treasure and it's
28:35
starting to be that adventure story that
28:37
Disney tells which kind of comes in with
28:39
live action and some of the attractions
28:41
and stuff but it's it's moving from kind
28:44
of the classic Disney fairy tale to
28:46
they're a little bit more um going out
28:49
on adventures and and taking a little
28:51
bit more control. And then you think of
28:54
you could even put that in the era of
28:56
like
28:57
>> 80s, 90s and early 2000s. And then you
28:59
move on to treasure and you know there
29:02
it's heavily leaning into to Marvel and
29:05
the hero and villain component and you
29:07
really see those kind of become even
29:09
more central in the '9s to 20110s 15s
29:14
whatever. I I almost feel like they're
29:16
kind of pulling from a very generalized
29:19
standpoint because there's definitely
29:20
exceptions to this this thought process.
29:22
Yeah.
29:23
>> But like you look at this and this is
29:25
more like other than Snow White and the
29:28
Seven Dwarfves, a lot of this is more of
29:31
a forwardlooking story and Little
29:33
Mermaid's a little bit older too, but
29:36
she's very much pursuing that dream and
29:38
and it's not just a a wish and a dream.
29:41
And I I think that's an interesting I
29:43
wonder if there was, you know, almost a
29:45
choice at some point made of like, hey,
29:47
this is the kind of story from this era
29:49
that we're basing this is off of and and
29:52
you know, you can go out of this play
29:54
box, but this is kind of our foundation
29:55
where they're building. I don't know.
29:57
See, I don't even view it as they're
29:59
kind of like moving through the years
30:00
and pulling from different things like
30:02
that. I think what they just recognize
30:04
as with the success of the first four
30:07
and their fleet and the inherent desire
30:10
for a lot of Disney guests to go ahead
30:12
and experience these incredibly
30:14
immersive themed venues and whatnot.
30:17
they decided to take a risk and go ahead
30:19
and change up the formula and go ahead
30:22
and just invest in these different types
30:25
because you have the wish like how you
30:26
said it's very whimsical very
30:28
quintessential Disney park feel
30:31
>> classic
30:32
>> but it doesn't have a lot of those
30:33
things from the parks that you would
30:35
expect it has a lot of the stories a lot
30:37
of very princess forward-driven stories
30:38
and kind of fantasy land in a way
30:41
>> essentially yeah
30:42
>> and then you have a ship like the Disney
30:44
Treasure which is themed after adventure
30:45
and for lack of better It feels like
30:48
Adventure Land. You have Skipper Society
30:50
in the center.
30:53
>> Periscope Pub which is themed after
30:54
20,000 leagues under the sea.
30:56
>> So fun. Yeah.
30:56
>> You have the Haunted Mansion parlor.
30:59
>> You have a lot of things and it feels
31:00
like a floating version
31:02
>> of the Disney parks. And that ship
31:04
essentially from what a lot of people
31:06
say and a lot of people feel, it's a
31:08
ship made for Disney parks fans.
31:10
>> Oh yeah.
31:11
>> And then you have the Destiny which
31:12
really goes into that heroes and
31:14
villains archetype. So, it's you're
31:15
catering to those different needs, too,
31:17
where it's like every every ship is made
31:20
with a different consumer in mind, I
31:23
feel like, because they essentially go
31:24
to all these different destinations,
31:25
too. A lot of people pick the ships for
31:27
the itinerary that they're going on, but
31:29
>> you can still pick the ship for the ship
31:32
itself.
31:32
>> Yeah. Which I think with every
31:34
successive ship, that's becoming more
31:36
and more true,
31:37
>> just because they are becoming, you
31:39
know, it might be the same layout, but
31:41
they're becoming more and more unique.
31:42
in. And I think that's very fun down to
31:46
uh, you know, to geek out about and get
31:48
different. It's like going to different
31:49
castle parks. Like Magic Kingdom and
31:52
Disneyland are very different
31:53
>> cuz conceptually they're the same. It's
31:55
like conceptually
31:56
>> they're all beautiful vessels.
31:59
>> Oh yeah.
32:00
>> In you walk into them though and you're
32:02
not going to walk down Main Street USA
32:04
at Disneyland and get the same feeling
32:05
that you get walking down Main Street
32:06
USA at Magic Kingdom Park
32:07
>> or Disneyland Paris or Tokyo
32:10
>> or anywhere else. Like it's all
32:11
different. And that's the best way,
32:13
that's actually a perfect way to go
32:14
ahead and describe the variety between
32:15
the ships.
32:17
>> They have different things going for
32:19
them, whether it be the themed venues,
32:22
the itineraries that they're sailing on,
32:24
just there's so much individuality with
32:27
them.
32:29
>> And there's so much more we could talk
32:31
about with the Disney Believe, but we're
32:33
going to save that till we know more
32:35
instead of just speculating forever, cuz
32:37
we could speculate for hours. We could.
32:39
>> Before we wrap this up though, from what
32:41
we do know of the Disney Believe and
32:44
everything that you know from previous
32:46
cruises that you've been on and will be
32:48
on soon, where do you think this lines
32:52
in list of favorite ships? Does it make
32:54
a top three? Is it one that's going to
32:56
be in the middle to you? Is it the
32:58
favorite? Is the least favorite? Where
33:00
do you think it'll land up?
33:01
>> I think this is probably going to land
33:03
top three for me.
33:04
>> Okay. Nothing will beat the Disney
33:06
fantasy for me. I was going to say,
33:07
what's your number one? Okay,
33:09
>> as of right now, I've only sailed on
33:11
three separate ships. I will be adding a
33:13
fourth one, like I said, in a week. But
33:17
right now, out of my ranking, because I
33:18
sailed on the Fantasy, Wonder, and the
33:20
Wish, I would actually rank those ships
33:22
in that exact order of two and three.
33:24
>> And which one do you think this might
33:25
end up bumping down?
33:27
>> I think this one replace the Wish
33:30
>> easily. I mean, I think as much as
33:32
again, like how I said earlier, I love
33:33
the Wish. I think it's a beautiful ship.
33:37
It still ranks low for me just because
33:39
of my own personal preferences. I like
33:42
that very classic maritime ocean liner
33:44
aesthetic. I love the grand luxury that
33:48
you feel when you're walking in there.
33:49
And again, not to say the wish is a bad
33:51
ship because it is absolutely not. If I
33:52
had the opportunity to sail on her
33:54
tomorrow, I would absolutely do it cuz
33:56
it's beautiful.
33:57
>> We're picking from favorites. We're not
33:59
saying one's bad. Yeah. Um Exactly. And
34:02
it's just like regardless of that, there
34:04
is no
34:06
there is no mediocre. I wouldn't even
34:08
say there's no good Disney cruise line
34:11
ship. Every single ship is either it's
34:14
great to excellent. And where it falls
34:16
on that spectrum for you just falls with
34:19
your own personal preference. The Wish
34:21
falls a little bit more towards great
34:22
for me. The Fantasy falls towards
34:25
excellent. Okay, that's totally fair.
34:27
And I predict this one could be my
34:29
favorite Disney cruise line. just when
34:31
you think of the themes like it's very
34:33
much in my wheelhouse so I could see
34:35
this being a favorite but you never know
34:37
like sometimes you connect with stories
34:39
or a certain space or a performer or
34:41
something you know especially piano bars
34:42
are always my thing
34:43
>> oh my gosh yes I love a good piano bar
34:46
>> exactly but we'll be covering more of
34:48
this on future episodes of Dap's travels
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fantastic week. We look forward to
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geeking out with you about more DAPs
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travels in the future. Make it a great
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week. Keep kind.