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Star Wars Nite + Galaxy’s Edge Evolution - Episode #814
May 6, 2026
Welcome to Geeks Corner! This week, Mr. Daps and Caitie are breaking down a massive week in the Star Wars fandom, from May the 4th celebrations to some "Force-shifting" updates at Disneyland.
First, we kick things off with a "riveting" cinematic thesis: Is Darth Vader actually just the Beetlejuice of the Star Wars galaxy? [00:00:17] We compare their surprisingly short screen times and wonder if Vader was just dealing with a bad case of the plague.
Then, we dive into our full review of Disneyland After Dark: Star Wars Nite. From Darth Maul’s surprise appearance [03:00] to the breathtaking lightsaber meetup at the Millennium Falcon [05:00], we discuss why this might be the strongest After Dark event Disney has ever put on.
Finally, we tackle the BIG news: The expanded timeline at Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. [17:30] Luke, Leia, Han Solo, and Darth Vader have officially arrived in Batuu. Does this "ruin" the immersion of the land, or is it exactly what the fans have been waiting for? We talk data, character themes, and why hearing John Williams’ iconic score in the land [27:00] changes everything.
In this episode:
00:17 - The Darth Vader vs. Beetlejuice screen time debate.
02:40 - Why Star Wars Nite surprised us this year.
05:01 - The Lightsaber Summoning: Hundreds of blades at the Falcon.
10:30 - The return (and upgrade) of March of the First Order.
14:55 - Why Tom Sawyer Island is the perfect place for a Jedi duel.
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Welcome to Geeks Corner. I'm Mr. Daps.
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I'm Katie. And did you know
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>> that Darth Vader only appears for
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approximately 12 minutes in the original
0:25
Star Wars: A New Hope?
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>> Isn't that
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>> I almost made it to Star Wars cuz I'm
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like technically
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>> But if you said that then
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>> technically because overall of Star Wars
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more, but
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>> Star Wars Star Wars.
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>> Isn't that like how long Beetlejuice is
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in Beetlejuice?
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It's like 12 or 15 minutes.
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>> Huh.
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>> Mhm.
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>> I haven't watched it in a very long
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time.
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>> Which is a fact that shocks people
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because you feel like once once
0:49
Beetlejuice shows up, a lot of crazy
0:51
stuff happens.
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>> But same with Darth Vader. Like exactly.
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This is a Star Wars show.
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>> Well, no. I was just I was just saying
0:57
the comparison is very funny.
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>> Very interesting.
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>> It makes you feel like they're in the
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movie for a lot.
1:01
>> So, are you saying that Beetlejuice and
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Darth Vader
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>> never seen them in the same room?
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You never know.
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>> Not once. What is Beetlejuice's
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backstory [laughter]
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>> besides getting the plague?
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>> Maybe that's the real story behind Darth
1:19
Vader. Maybe the prequels didn't
1:21
actually happen. He just had the plague
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and
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>> that's why he was wearing the mask was
1:25
to keep him going. It was actually a
1:27
ventilator that uh
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>> Whoa.
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>> I don't know. Anyway, here what should
1:31
people [laughter] do, Katie?
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Uh, well, you guys should go into the
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comments and you should tell us uh how
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similar you think Beetlejuice and Darth
1:39
Vader are.
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>> You never know
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>> because I think that that's a very
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riveting um thesis that one could write.
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I also think you should subscribe to
1:47
wherever you are because if you like
1:49
this, boy howdy, do we have more of it
1:51
coming.
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>> Boy howdy.
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>> Also, go to dapshq.com.
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There's a lot of fun content that is
1:58
extra. Imagine this but crazier.
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>> And you're supporting DAPS.
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>> You're supporting DAPs. And also,
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there's a post show to the show.
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>> There you go. There you go. You don't
2:07
want to miss Daps After Dark. It's a lot
2:08
of fun. All right. This week has been a
2:10
very busy week. We've had lots of Star
2:13
Wars, which makes a lot of sense because
2:14
Star Wars day was yesterday and we have
2:16
Revenge of the Sith today.
2:17
>> What's Star Wars?
2:18
>> Revenge of the Fifth.
2:19
>> Revenge of the Fifth.
2:21
>> We listened to Revenge of the Sith
2:23
today. But um yeah, it was a very busy
2:26
week. We had uh Disneyland After Dark,
2:30
Star Wars night last Tuesday night,
2:32
which is why we had Geeks Corner on
2:34
Monday night last week, which I thought
2:36
worked out. Like I thought it it
2:38
surprised me how well it worked out, but
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um
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>> we're not changing the date of Geeks
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Corner.
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>> Disneyland After Dark, Star Wars night.
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>> Mhm.
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>> This year was a surprise
2:47
because I will admit I kind of had
2:50
gotten to that point where I was like,
2:52
hm, it seems like they're doing the same
2:54
thing every year. I don't know that
2:56
they're adding anything.
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>> Do we need to keep covering it?
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>> This year, the resounding answer was
3:02
yes.
3:04
>> And it wasn't just because they added
3:07
the extended timeline for Star Wars
3:09
Galaxy's Edge Night Early.
3:11
>> It was because they added things to
3:13
everything.
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>> Like I don't think Well, there was a
3:16
couple things they didn't add anything
3:18
to, but we're going to go through this
3:20
real quick. First off, I think we'll
3:22
just start chronologically. So Sand
3:25
Whitwar, I saw you saw.
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>> Yes. Because we had to divide and
3:29
conquer a little bit.
3:31
>> You know, Darth Maul himself, well, the
3:32
voice of Darth Maul himself
3:35
>> in
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>> Tomorrowland.
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>> Yes.
3:38
>> Did an intro moment for the first Star
3:41
Wars night. That was a lot of fun. Darth
3:44
Maul showed up. I don't know how that's
3:46
possible and the world didn't implode,
3:48
but
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>> um it was a fun moment. It was great. It
3:52
was a good kickoff for the the event,
3:57
especially since Darth or because Maul
4:00
is playing on Disney Plus and it's the
4:02
newest Disney series
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>> and or Star Wars series
4:05
>> on Disney
4:06
>> and and it's good. Like we watched most
4:08
of it like it's it's solid. I've heard
4:11
>> haven't watched the last two episodes
4:13
that came out yesterday yet. that will
4:15
be happening very soon because I've
4:16
already seen spoilers and I'm
4:19
>> I am very excited very excited about
4:20
this watching actually.
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>> Um it's it's
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>> I think we've gotten through the quote
4:24
unquote slow parts if you can say
4:26
they're slow parts.
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>> There's always a part um but no it was a
4:30
great way to start start it off. I saw
4:31
last night that Ashley Xeen was was
4:33
there for I mean honestly I would have
4:37
chosen Ashley over Sam. Like, sorry,
4:39
Sam.
4:40
>> The surprise for the photo. I was like,
4:43
>> yeah,
4:44
>> in the car with Mickey and Minnie, like
4:46
>> best thing ever. Um, so anyway, first
4:50
the night was started off with this.
4:52
>> You were meanwhile watching the
4:54
Skywalker saga, the memory of what's it
4:57
called?
4:58
>> Uh,
4:59
memory of something.
5:02
>> It's it's the projection show that they
5:03
do every night. um which is not unique
5:06
to Star Wars night, but it's still very
5:09
good.
5:09
>> It was my first time seeing it with my
5:10
eyeballs.
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>> It is very well done. But what it led
5:14
into I thought was even better. And this
5:18
was the lightsaber meetup, whatever they
5:20
call it this year. Um
5:22
>> lightsaber summoning I believe. Yes,
5:24
there you go. Previous year they've had
5:27
Ry and there's been a little moment of
5:30
confrontation with the First Order. none
5:33
of that this year. Uh this year it it
5:37
kind of it I liked it because it
5:39
connected with um Rogue One.
5:42
>> So it started with I'm forgetting the
5:44
name of what they are, but um the I'm
5:48
one with the Force. The Force is one
5:49
with me leading into bringing Luke in.
5:51
You have your lightsaber thing and it
5:53
was very positive. It was very just
5:55
about the Force and coming together
5:58
>> and it's beautiful. like hundreds if not
6:01
thousands of lightsabers around the
6:03
Millennium Falcon. Can you ask for
6:05
anything better?
6:06
>> I also I love this is not anything
6:08
that's going to surprise anybody. I have
6:10
my phone colorcoordinated in rainbow
6:13
order. I love pretty colors. So, the
6:15
lightsaber meetup is always super super
6:17
fun for me because you look around and
6:19
it's just so many fun pretty colors like
6:21
all and I know I know someone's going to
6:24
be like, "Oh my god, Star Wars is not
6:25
about pretty colors." Yes, it is. Okay.
6:28
Actually, you could make an argument
6:29
that it is.
6:30
>> Star Wars is about pretty colors. Also,
6:32
because there is a moment in the
6:35
lightsaber summoning where in ours, I
6:38
don't know if this is still happening,
6:39
so everybody just be chill about it.
6:41
>> Say what you know.
6:42
>> The kids that they brought up and they
6:45
>> Yeah.
6:46
>> But they said, "What does your
6:47
lightsaber represent? What color do you
6:50
have? And what does it represent?" And I
6:51
thought that was really nice because did
6:53
the kids give or did the people that
6:55
they chose, they were like 15 and under
6:57
I want to say.
6:58
>> Did they give the blue is because the
7:01
kyber crystal does this whatever? No.
7:03
They gave the answer of like I love Star
7:06
Wars. This is a super fun thing. Oh,
7:09
purple because I like it. I'm like,
7:11
yeah,
7:12
>> my favorite was green because of Yoda.
7:14
>> Like that was that was really cute.
7:16
>> That's the coolest thing. But like
7:18
that's what Star Wars fandom. No, I I
7:20
think it's more than Star Wars. I think
7:22
that's what fandom is about. It should
7:24
be celebrating the thing you love as
7:27
opposed to um criticizing the people
7:31
that also love what you love but not in
7:33
the way that you love it because that's
7:34
not what fandom's about. I I would just
7:36
categorically deny that. And I've
7:38
deleted probably 300 comments in the
7:40
last week.
7:42
>> Right.
7:42
>> Um because I just decided we're not
7:44
going to we're not if you're not nice,
7:46
you're not on dabs. Like that's just how
7:47
it's working.
7:48
>> You don't get to engage. um you do not
7:50
get to have your voice heard. And um but
7:54
I think there's that argument to be made
7:56
that like you can have critical thoughts
7:59
without being critical towards a person.
8:01
You can have you critical thinking
8:03
without being a jerk. And [laughter]
8:06
>> amazing.
8:07
>> Just saying. But that's what I loved
8:09
about this moment is the little kid's
8:11
like green because of Yoda and everybody
8:13
just geeks out and cheers for it. And
8:16
that's what it should be is, hey, you
8:18
got it wrong. We're celebrating it
8:19
anyway.
8:20
>> Also,
8:20
>> and it wasn't wrong.
8:21
>> I was going to say, I don't think there
8:22
is a wrong. Second of all,
8:25
>> you guys know, thank you. Your Kyber
8:27
crystal should be whatever you want it
8:28
to be. I want mine to be pink. Second of
8:30
all,
8:31
Samuel L. Jackson,
8:33
do you know why he has a purple
8:34
lightsaber?
8:35
>> Cuz he wanted one.
8:36
>> Do you want to know why Mace Wind do?
8:37
Yeah. George Lucas had to figure out
8:39
lore of how purple lightsabers existed
8:42
because
8:42
>> that's just what storytelling is.
8:44
>> Because Samuel Jackson went, "A purple
8:46
one looks cool." And don't we all just
8:47
want a lightsaber that we're like, "Oh,
8:49
that's my favorite color. That looks
8:51
cool."
8:52
>> Well, and at the end of the day, whether
8:53
it's Star Wars, Star Trek, Lord of the
8:56
Rings, you name it.
8:58
You like it because you geeked out about
9:00
something in it.
9:01
>> You connect with something.
9:02
>> Whether it's Gandalf and his cool staff
9:06
or a ring or a
9:09
phaser or a lightsaber, you connected
9:12
with something and you love it. So, you
9:13
you embrace it like, and that's great.
9:16
Um or Taylor Swift. I don't know what
9:18
she has. She has a guitar.
9:20
>> Taylor Swift has a lot of things.
9:22
>> Well, I meant like lightsaber,
9:24
you know, like what was that
9:25
>> guitar?
9:26
>> Yeah, guitar is her her superpower. Um
9:30
or her voice. I don't know. But anyway,
9:31
we're not talking about that. That's not
9:33
tonight. But um
9:36
anyway, this was a wonderful upgrade, I
9:38
thought, to what they've done in
9:40
previous years. And I definitely going
9:42
into this was going like, hm, I don't
9:45
feel like they can use Rey if they're
9:47
expanding the universe tonight
9:48
>> and she can't be
9:49
>> I feel like they have to use Luke. They
9:51
did end up using Luke. Like
9:52
>> it's true. I really
9:54
>> I was hoping for also some Leia, but
9:57
>> I was too, but I also
10:00
>> I also felt
10:01
>> wasn't she training after Empire?
10:03
>> I'm still confused about the timeline.
10:05
So [laughter]
10:06
I was like, we need more comic books.
10:08
Um, we only have one of what, five, six,
10:11
whatever.
10:11
>> For that. I know she trained to be a
10:12
Jedi at some point.
10:14
>> Yeah, we we need more. Um, we'll get to
10:16
that later. So, we saw that. It was
10:19
great. The next big thing, yes, we saw
10:22
the um the fan meet up, which
10:24
>> yeah,
10:24
>> just great. It's a fun time. I love to
10:27
see people enjoy
10:28
>> which I understand it rained last night,
10:30
so I'm curious how that impacted
10:32
everything. Yoza,
10:33
>> the next big thing that we saw was March
10:36
of the First Order featuring
10:40
Fasma,
10:40
>> Captain Fasma, but this year they
10:43
upgraded it, which was kind of the theme
10:45
for the night and Kylo Ren also happened
10:48
to be there along with a First Order
10:49
officer. So, it was kind of a mix of the
10:52
opening of Kylo Ren's entry to Star Wars
10:55
Galaxy's Edge prior to this day, well
10:58
actually to this day because that would
11:00
have been the last day. um mixed with
11:03
the March of the First Order and it
11:05
worked phenomenally. Like it
11:07
[clears throat] was
11:09
>> March of the First Order I always
11:10
thought was one of the stronger
11:12
offerings of Disneyland After Dark Star
11:14
Wars night. When they got rid of it, I
11:16
was not a happy camper. I was like,
11:18
well, what's the point? Like this is the
11:20
big thing we came to see.
11:22
>> And then they bring it back. I'm like,
11:24
okay, this is great. I'm happy.
11:26
>> But then they added to it instead of
11:28
just bringing it back. And I think that
11:30
was one of the best moves Disney could
11:32
have made. What did you think of this?
11:34
>> I loved it. I was actually just talking
11:36
about it today with somebody that was
11:37
like, "Hey, I'm going to Star Wars night
11:40
tomorrow. What do I need to know?" And I
11:42
said, "Um, absolutely don't miss March
11:44
of the First Order because yes, it's
11:45
back." And I also think it's better
11:47
>> and the lightsaber thing. Like those are
11:48
the two if you're not going to miss
11:49
anything, those are the two things to
11:51
catch.
11:52
>> Well, I also added in a third one that I
11:54
think we're going to get to as well. Um,
11:56
but I said March the First Order cuz I
11:59
was like, first of all, so fun. Like, it
12:03
is so fun. Especially when you have
12:06
people around you that are really
12:07
excited and they're like, there's this
12:10
moment when the stormtroopers kind of go
12:11
out and everybody kind of goes
12:14
>> and it's so like
12:16
>> I will say just from a cuz you so we did
12:19
a two camera version of this so that
12:21
everybody would get
12:23
>> the whole experience. So Katie was where
12:26
the Stormtroopers and Captain Fasma made
12:29
their initial attack.
12:32
>> Yes.
12:32
>> Or or whatever you want to call that.
12:34
And I was where they traditionally would
12:36
do the second one, but it was a little
12:38
bit further to the left this year. And
12:40
they didn't do it for the second part.
12:42
>> And I will admit, you had the better
12:44
spot. And I was a little bit I was like,
12:46
"Oh, this is kind of a I'm not gonna say
12:49
downer."
12:51
But it didn't have that same moment of
12:53
like, "Oh, like I'm intimidated
12:56
>> because the second part, it made sense.
12:59
The story-wise, it probably was a better
13:01
choice."
13:02
>> But the fact that
13:04
>> I think there was more people than to
13:06
intimidate in the second section versus
13:09
where you were, which was also great. I
13:12
would like to have seen that in both
13:13
spots just because I was like, "Oh, I
13:15
missed out on the moment
13:17
>> and I thought I was gonna get it." But
13:18
go ahead.
13:18
>> And that is my favorite moment of March
13:20
of [snorts] the First is that there's
13:22
just this sudden moment where
13:24
you can say you're a tough guy as much
13:26
as you want,
13:27
>> but you see them,
13:28
>> but the second the storm troopers are in
13:30
your face asking for information about
13:32
the rebels,
13:34
>> it doesn't matter who it is, they all
13:35
back up.
13:36
>> It's a little scary. M
13:38
>> um and Fasma also walking and
13:42
>> so good.
13:42
>> It's one of the best moments. Um and I
13:47
also will go out on a limb and say you
13:48
don't need to be a sequel trilogy stand
13:51
to appreciate this.
13:52
>> No, I think I think it's just good
13:53
storytelling. I think it's great
13:55
storytelling. It's it to me is what
13:58
Disney entertainment can do when it
14:01
really utilizes
14:04
the space because part of it's a space,
14:06
part of it's the characters in its
14:08
arsenal
14:08
>> and and it's just putting good
14:10
storytelling with all of this.
14:12
>> Yes.
14:12
>> And they didn't
14:14
>> like the fact that Kylo Ren and the
14:15
First Order officer were there was a
14:18
>> I'm going to say frosting on this show.
14:21
>> You didn't need that. Like that was just
14:23
extra bonus. It's a solid show either
14:26
way it is and or experience, whatever
14:28
you want to call it. And I think it
14:30
shows what you can do when you really
14:32
bring these characters that we know and
14:35
love and put them in their element right
14:39
in front of your face. Whether it's in
14:40
Tomorrowland, whether it's in Galaxy's
14:42
Edge, whether it's in Cars Land, like it
14:43
could be anywhere.
14:45
>> Wow.
14:46
>> But like, no, it's it's super solid and
14:49
uh if you're going definitely worth
14:52
checking. Um, what was the next thing
14:54
you said you didn't want to miss?
14:55
>> I would say the thing you don't want to
14:56
miss that I actually missed Scouts
14:59
Honor. I'm going to be honest. The
15:01
lightsaber training.
15:02
>> Oh, yeah. Okay.
15:04
>> Mainly because I think even if you don't
15:05
have a lightsaber, even if you're not
15:06
doing the lightsaber training, I think
15:08
watching a lightsaber duel on Tom Sawyer
15:10
Island is so dang cool.
15:12
>> But they'll lend one to you so you can
15:14
have both.
15:14
>> Well, also that. Yeah. But even if
15:16
you're like, "Oh, I I want to set this
15:18
out."
15:18
>> But it was another upgrade this year.
15:20
>> I think getting to watch it on Tom
15:21
Swagger Island. I immediately my brain
15:23
went to Mustafar.
15:24
>> Yeah, it it was like
15:26
>> perhaps
15:27
>> from a show standpoint one of the best
15:30
moments of the night from a visually
15:32
watching. Um like it was phenomenal
15:34
watching them
15:36
>> like they weren't fullon Jedi Sith,
15:39
>> but they're far enough away you can't
15:41
really tell the difference. And yes, the
15:43
show was fairly similar to what it was
15:45
in Fantasy Land Theater, but it was a
15:47
step up. And I actually think it's the
15:50
best location they've had for this show.
15:53
>> If I had my way, they would never do a
15:55
show again [laughter] in the Small World
15:57
Mall because I just think it's not a
15:59
good like I get it. You're close. You
16:01
can see whatever. But you can't. And
16:04
like I don't like the music shows there.
16:06
I want the shows to be in a place where
16:08
everybody can see them and as many
16:10
people as possible can see them. And
16:11
that's exactly what this did. And
16:14
>> I also think the whole point of
16:15
lightsabers is that they are literally a
16:17
saber of light. And I know that that
16:20
sounds really dumb,
16:21
>> but it glowed.
16:22
>> But it glowed
16:23
>> in the dark out on on the island.
16:25
>> And you're far enough away and it's so
16:27
cool.
16:28
>> Yeah. Um, all of this to say, I think
16:32
this might have been the strongest
16:34
Disneyland After Dark for the year.
16:36
>> Oh, I would absolutely
16:37
>> And and there was characters that were
16:39
great. There was so much more we could
16:40
cover that we're not going to because we
16:42
ran out of time. But um you know, hat
16:45
tip to Disney for surprising me on Star
16:48
Wars night,
16:49
>> especially when I was like, "Oh, it's
16:51
only four nights this year. I feel like
16:53
we might not get more." But like, no,
16:54
they they
16:56
>> they definitely surprised me in a very
16:58
positive way. And I got to see C-3PO,
17:00
which was also amazing, and that just
17:02
makes me happy.
17:03
>> And what?
17:04
>> Brought back Jawa.
17:05
>> Jawa's great. Yeah. Like so good. Um,
17:08
just let them walk around again. That
17:10
would be phenomenal.
17:11
>> The first Star Wars night forever
17:13
chasing that high. The first Star Wars
17:14
night like six years ago where they let
17:16
Jawas run around
17:17
>> so good and steal stuff. Um, the other
17:19
thing that was happening which we'd like
17:21
to see Jawas happen here as well was the
17:23
expansion of the timeline.
17:25
>> That'd be good
17:26
>> for Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, which does,
17:28
I think, open itself up to Jawas being a
17:32
part of Star Wars Galaxy's I mean Jawas
17:34
could be a part of any timeline for all
17:36
we know. I mean, I can think of a few
17:38
scrapyards the Jawuas would like to be
17:39
hanging out.
17:40
>> I I think this could be an okay thing,
17:42
but uh technically that night officially
17:46
I don't know where their official is,
17:48
but the thing they've been promoting was
17:50
Wednesday would be the official day of
17:52
the expanded timeline of Star Wars
17:54
Galaxy's Edge. So, after leaving the
17:56
park at 1 something in the morning, I
17:58
was back at 8 something in the morning.
18:01
It was fantastic, but it was totally
18:03
worth it because Darth Vader was in Star
18:06
Wars Galaxy's Edge. Han Solo was in Star
18:09
Wars Galaxy's Edge. Luke Or Luke
18:12
Skywalker was in Star Wars. I almost
18:14
said Luke Orana.
18:15
>> Orana.
18:15
>> Yeah. Leia Orana was in Star Wars
18:17
Galaxy's Edge. And on top of that, we
18:19
got Chewbacca, C3PO,
18:22
um Ahsokaano, The Mandalorian, and Gro,
18:25
and Ray Skywalker all in Star Wars
18:28
Galaxy's Edge in one day.
18:30
And it's definitely marks a fundamental
18:34
change for the land. Mhm.
18:37
>> In 2019 when they brought the land
18:40
online, the whole thought was this is
18:42
one moment in time that you don't know
18:44
what's going to happen and this is
18:48
basically where Star Wars was in the
18:50
moment like in the storytelling they're
18:52
moving in the or telling in the movies
18:54
and you would get to experience things
18:57
>> as kind of the characters did in the
19:00
movies. Um, the challenge I had with
19:02
that is we got more movies and the
19:06
timeline stayed the same. And as time
19:09
has gone on further, there definitely
19:11
has been a
19:14
request, a need, a whatever you want to
19:17
call it for the original Star Wars
19:20
characters, and now we finally have
19:22
them. And just judging off of the first
19:25
few days of Han Luke and Leia and Darth
19:29
Vader being in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge,
19:31
I would say it's a hit. However, there
19:34
are people that say, "Hey, this ruins
19:37
the idea of what Star Wars Galaxy's Edge
19:39
originally was made to be." Um, my
19:42
question for you, Katie, is what do you
19:44
think of all these new characters coming
19:45
and the storyline kind of being expanded
19:50
slash ne I can almost say neglected um
19:54
for Galaxy's Edge.
19:55
>> Um, I don't think that Galaxy's Edge and
20:00
uh Galactic Star Cruiser ever needed to
20:02
be interchangeable.
20:04
Um, I don't I personally
20:07
>> Did you say Galactic Star Cruiser?
20:08
>> Yes.
20:09
>> Oh, you think they're related?
20:10
I think that they were locked together.
20:14
I think that it was because Galactic
20:17
Star Cruiser was going to be locked into
20:19
a timeline. We had to lock Batu into a
20:22
timeline because that was the only way
20:23
that the Galactic Star Cruiser made
20:25
sense.
20:25
>> I think you throw it anytime, but go
20:27
ahead.
20:27
>> Sure. [snorts] But Galactic Star Cruiser
20:29
was locked between a time because there
20:30
was a lightsaber moment.
20:32
>> Sure.
20:33
>> Anywh who, [clears throat] I don't think
20:34
it ever needed to be that. I think that
20:37
um
20:39
imagine if you will stick with me guys.
20:42
Imagine if you will you go to Cars Land
20:44
and you can't see Cruz Ramirez because
20:46
Cruz Ramirez has not met the Radiator
20:49
Springs gang yet. So Cruz Ramirez can't
20:52
do People don't want that. People want
20:55
to just see Cruz Ramirez and you know if
20:57
Sally's there Sally's there. I haven't
21:00
seen Sally at Carzine in a long time.
21:01
That's s bring back Sally.
21:02
>> Have you ever seen Sally?
21:03
>> No. I was like, I don't think I've ever
21:05
seen
21:05
>> I don't think I've ever seen her either.
21:06
>> I think there might be a Porsche issue,
21:08
but um [laughter]
21:10
>> I could be wrong.
21:10
>> Bring her back. Anyway, um
21:14
I think that people wanted to experience
21:16
Star Wars. And when you say Star Wars to
21:19
most of the population, I'm going to go
21:21
out on a limb here and I'm going to say
21:22
even people that have become later Star
21:24
Wars fans, when you say Star Wars,
21:26
people think Luke, Leia, Darth Vader,
21:28
Han Solo, C3PO, R2-D2. they're going to
21:31
think original trilogy. In my humble
21:35
opinion, even I as a person that did not
21:37
know Star Wars pre 15 years ago,
21:40
>> I would go, "Oh, like Obi-Wan Kenobi,
21:43
>> I wish."
21:43
>> Which I would love to see in Star Wars
21:45
Galaxy. Like that would be my home. If
21:47
you
21:48
>> old Ben Kenobi,
21:49
>> but I also want him age appropriately
21:51
cast. Correct.
21:52
>> I want I want a guy that's in his 50s or
21:54
60s doing it. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna
21:57
back you up even more in a way that you
21:59
didn't even know I was going to do.
22:00
>> Please.
22:01
>> I am going to say that the Walt Disney
22:04
Company is a very datadriven company. As
22:06
much as it's a storytelling company,
22:08
they want to know, are our stories
22:11
connecting with our fans.
22:13
>> Okay.
22:14
>> And I don't have the data that the Walt
22:17
Disney Company has. What I do have
22:19
though is Neielson ratings.
22:23
Neielen ratings.
22:24
>> Correct. If I did not know you were
22:25
going to go this way. [laughter]
22:27
>> Last year, one year ago on May the 4th,
22:30
which we could argue is the biggest Star
22:32
Wars day of the year.
22:33
>> Yeah, I would.
22:34
>> They tracked
22:36
>> what Star Wars was being watched the
22:38
most.
22:39
>> Oh, I saw this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
22:41
>> So, you look at the top 10 Star Wars
22:43
titles on Disney streaming services,
22:45
whether it was Disney Plus or Hulu, and
22:48
you see the first one is Andor, which no
22:50
representation, but I also I kind of get
22:53
it. like it's it's kind of a feeder into
22:55
the original trilogy. Then you've got
22:57
Star Wars: A New Hope, Phantom Menace,
22:59
Empire Strikes Back, Revenge of the
23:00
Sith, Attack of the Clones, Return of
23:03
the Jedi,
23:04
>> Rogue One, also a feeder into the
23:07
original.
23:08
>> Then you get into the first series,
23:10
which is Star Wars: Tales of the
23:12
Underward World, and then the second
23:14
series, which arguably is probably the
23:17
one that people have seen the most,
23:19
which is Star Wars: The Clone Wars. What
23:21
is not there? sequel trilogy.
23:23
>> The sequel trilogy is not there, what
23:26
was predominantly
23:28
represented in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge?
23:31
>> Uh, sequel trilogy.
23:32
>> Sequel trilogy.
23:33
>> Yeah.
23:33
>> The other thing I think looking back at
23:35
this, what is also not represented here?
23:39
>> Uh,
23:41
>> this granted this is a year ago,
23:43
>> Rebels, Ahsoka,
23:44
>> the Mandoververse. Nothing from the
23:46
Mandoververse is represented here, which
23:48
I find interesting. I would be very
23:50
interested to see how that would has
23:52
changed because Andor was actively
23:54
airing during May the 4th last year.
23:56
>> But like there's no skeleton crew.
23:57
There's no like
23:58
>> I love skeleton crew.
23:59
>> There's there's a lot that could be in
24:01
there that wasn't I'd love to see and
24:03
I'm sure we'll see it at some point
24:05
>> what we had happen this year. But if I'm
24:09
Disney and I have to make decisions
24:11
based on what I know and I'm assuming
24:13
they have better information than this,
24:15
it kind of makes sense that you're like,
24:17
"Hey, a bulk of what's people are
24:21
watching
24:22
>> involves this era. We should probably
24:25
have it in a place that people can see
24:27
it because that's what people want." I
24:29
mean, and then I would add to that and
24:30
the story I've told on this show before
24:33
is how many times have I watched people
24:36
interact with characters in Star Wars
24:38
Galaxy's Edge and then they bring Luke
24:39
Skywalker in and suddenly instead of
24:42
young people being excited about Mando
24:44
or Ray or whoever, you have, you know,
24:47
son, father and grandfather, daughter,
24:49
mother and grandfather, you know, like
24:51
whatever it is, like multi-generation
24:53
suddenly connecting because as much as
24:55
Rey is a fantastic character, she's one
24:57
of my favorites. love.
24:58
>> One of the best theme songs also in the
25:01
John Williams ride,
25:02
>> but as much as I love Rey and I love,
25:06
>> you know, you could pick any of these
25:08
characters really,
25:10
>> but they're not necessarily the most
25:12
known if you're not in that really niche
25:15
like we love everybody
25:17
>> and or we love whatever we love. And the
25:21
thing that that I walk away with is when
25:23
we talked with Thomas Masloom, who's now
25:24
Disney Experiences chairman, he really
25:27
said they want to make sure that they're
25:30
making Disney's accessible to as many
25:32
people as possible.
25:34
>> So, do you want to go with niche
25:35
characters? Which Ry is not a niche
25:38
character. Like, she's fairly wellknown.
25:40
But if you could have a character that's
25:43
known by this many people or this many
25:46
people and loved by that many people,
25:49
it makes sense to me that you would
25:51
probably go the wider direction. So, I
25:54
am something of a sequel trilogy lover.
25:57
I am a diehard sequel trilogy person. I
25:59
would actually say some of my favorite
26:00
Star Wars movies are in the sequel
26:01
trilogy. Fight me. Um, I will also say I
26:04
have three Star Wars tattoos and I would
26:06
100% argue that all of them are original
26:08
trilogy.
26:08
>> Mhm.
26:09
>> Because this is Luke Skywalker's
26:11
lightsaber. This is the tattoo I got
26:14
after seeing a new hope and I realized
26:15
that Han Solo was the coolest guy in the
26:17
world and I loved the Millennium Falcon.
26:19
I also have actually a lot of them are a
26:21
new hope related. Anyway, my second
26:23
tattoo is Leia or my third tattoo is
26:26
Leia with R2-D2 and it says, "You're my
26:28
only hope."
26:30
And I am like I'm a person that when Ray
26:33
said the garbage will do in theaters, I
26:36
cried. Okay.
26:37
>> But that was also because of a
26:38
connection with the original series.
26:40
Yes.
26:40
>> Um the other thing that's changed, well,
26:41
there's been a couple other things that
26:42
have changed. No, the only thing is not
26:44
just the characters. Yes. You've gotten
26:46
changes in the shops, which we could do
26:47
a whole episode on. Um because it does
26:50
kind of I actually think that would be
26:52
the thing I would be like I'm not such a
26:54
huge fan is is like you're kind of
26:56
breaking the Star Wars universe in that
26:59
regard. But
27:01
>> the music
27:02
>> and so they have added the original John
27:06
Williams Star Wars music to the land and
27:10
I've been surprised at how controversial
27:12
this is.
27:13
>> This is crazy to me. Um because to me
27:16
Star Wars music is as much a character
27:20
as Han Solo, as Luke Skywalker, as Rey,
27:23
as Emperor Palpatine, as Darth Vader.
27:26
Like they make or the music makes the
27:29
character in many ways.
27:30
>> I would argue that you can't remove the
27:32
characters from their themes.
27:33
>> And I would say that for the last what
27:36
is it, seven years now, the land has
27:39
lacked
27:41
>> by not having the music. Because if you
27:43
are trying to enter a Star Wars story, a
27:47
huge part of Star Wars, if not the most
27:49
iconic part of Star Wars, is the Star
27:51
Wars themes.
27:53
>> And it has shocked me at how many people
27:56
have been like, I can't believe they're
27:57
doing this. It takes you out of the
27:59
land. It takes you out of I'm like,
28:02
did we watch the same movie? Did we
28:04
listen to the same soundtracks? Because
28:06
to me, you can't have Star Wars without
28:09
the music. and walking in on Wednesday
28:13
morning and yes to an a lesser extent on
28:15
Tuesday night but
28:18
Disneyland after dark events always have
28:20
strange music like other music there's
28:22
always a lot
28:22
>> so it kind of
28:24
>> discounted itself because I was like
28:26
yeah you know there's always different
28:27
music
28:28
>> u but walking in on Wednesday morning
28:31
>> and I'm glad I filmed this like it was
28:33
one of those moments where I didn't
28:34
really think about it and I just did a
28:36
quick short but walking in and hearing
28:38
the Star Wars music seeing the
28:40
Stormtrooper ers and then a minute later
28:42
seeing Ray and and R2-D2,
28:45
it suddenly felt complete.
28:48
>> And it wasn't because of Stormtroopers.
28:51
It wasn't because of timeline. It was
28:53
because you like I almost wonder if
28:56
they'd have added the John Williams
28:57
music with the original
29:00
concept for the land. How much of a
29:02
difference that would have made? Because
29:04
if you're going to enter a Star Wars
29:05
story, you need to have the Star Wars
29:07
experience, which includes music.
29:10
Something that I will say is, can you
29:14
imagine Indiana Jones Adventure without
29:15
Indiana Jones music? No, you cannot. Can
29:17
you imagine
29:18
>> Cars Land without music? I would say
29:20
Cars Land is arguably the best
29:24
franchised recreated land period.
29:27
>> I was going to go for specifically um
29:29
John Williams. Would you go to Jurassic
29:31
Park the ride now Jurassic World the
29:33
ride and would you not want John
29:36
Williams there? No, you would want John
29:37
Williams there. I don't know why this is
29:39
the area where people like no John
29:41
Williams zone and something that you and
29:43
I talked about the other day and
29:46
um
29:49
it was there's a very infamous video of
29:51
me crying inside Rise of the Resistance
29:54
and I go I love Star Wars and I I
29:57
realized
29:59
six something years later the reason why
30:02
I cried and I said I love Star Wars is
30:04
because that was the first time I heard
30:05
John Williams music in besides like
30:08
Falcon Q maybe, but that was the first
30:10
time I heard like true John Williams
30:12
music in Galaxy's Edge and I felt so
30:15
immersed by it. And it at no point did I
30:18
go, huh, I'm on I can't even think of
30:21
the name of the uh ship for Rise, but I
30:24
wasn't like, hm, I'm on this uh
30:28
Destroyer. I'm not supposed to hear John
30:31
Williams music. Like, no. I went,
30:33
[gasps] oh my god, I'm in Star Wars.
30:35
Well, and I think you made a good point
30:36
is you can't be okay with it in the
30:39
attractions because it is in both
30:42
>> Rise of the Resistance and Smugglers Run
30:45
and not be okay with it in the land
30:47
because there's not a difference. It's
30:48
part of the same overall experience. And
30:51
I I I just think I think it's a
30:56
spotlight on the fandom that I'm not a
30:59
huge fan of where it's like we celebrate
31:02
what we love. we shouldn't be tearing it
31:05
down.
31:06
>> And you may not agree with everything
31:08
that Disney does or Star Wars does or
31:11
whatever it is you're a fandom of,
31:13
>> but at the same time, if you're ripping
31:15
it to shreds,
31:17
all that does is means you get less in
31:20
the future instead of more. And you
31:22
could make the argument that like, oh,
31:23
good. That means I just have the quality
31:25
stuff from the past. But you've now
31:27
tainted that.
31:28
>> And and so I'm just not a fan of that.
31:30
And
31:30
>> shouldn't you want your fandoms to to
31:32
succeed?
31:33
>> Yeah. And I I would think you'd want to
31:35
build up what is good versus tear down
31:39
what
31:40
whatever.
31:41
>> To quote another thing people
31:45
time, we'll go to comments.
31:46
>> That's how we're going to win. Not by
31:48
fighting what we hate, but saving what
31:50
we love.
31:50
>> True. And and I do think that that
31:54
there's a
31:56
I do have to wonder how many things
31:59
whether it's Disney, Star Wars, Star
32:01
Trek, you name it, Marvel, um that we've
32:04
missed out on because fans have gotten
32:07
so critical and so toxically critical
32:11
that instead of being like, "Oh, I like
32:14
this." They're like, "Oh, I don't like
32:17
this." Mhm.
32:18
>> And so they discourage the creativity of
32:20
storytelling and the creativity of
32:22
growth and and they encourage instead
32:26
these storytellers and creatives to play
32:29
it safe. And I just don't think that's a
32:30
good thing. But what a great way to end
32:33
the show. I don't think so. But
32:35
[laughter]
32:36
anyway, love what they've done with Star
32:38
Wars Galaxy's Edge. I think it's a great
32:40
thing. Other than the out of world
32:43
merchandise, I'm
32:46
But other than that,
32:48
other than that, fantastic. They've done
32:51
a great job. And I I'm just I don't
32:53
think I need to buy comic books. And um
32:56
>> I don't think you should buy merchandise
32:57
that says Star Wars,
32:58
>> things that say Star Wars in a Star Wars
33:00
theme. Put it Put it just outside the
33:03
gate. I'm fine with that. But whatever.
33:05
All right. Now, it is time if you have
33:06
anything you want to to chat with us
33:08
about, it is time for
33:14
Comments. Comments.
33:18
That is right. It is time for comments.
33:20
If you have anything you'd like us to
33:21
respond to or comment on, let us know in
33:24
the chat. We will return to all of
33:26
those. I completely agree with you as
33:28
I'm looking at this first one right
33:31
there that now is a good time to bring
33:34
back Jedi Training Academy and do it
33:36
right there in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge.
33:38
I think that would be amazing.
33:41
>> One may say now is the time. Now is the
33:43
best time. Now is the best time of our
33:45
lives.
33:46
>> I don't know where the best spot would
33:47
to be do it would be like maybe by the
33:50
Millennium Falcon and then kind of
33:51
expend things or expand things a little
33:53
bit and have it instead of being kind of
33:57
like a force whatever actually have
34:00
Darth Vader show up and make it a real
34:03
>> moment. But I I think that would be um
34:06
fantastic. Oh, we have a few more. Um,
34:10
I don't know what the next story should
34:12
be. Um, we'll hit with Star Trek for the
34:15
moment. What about Mickey and the Jedi
34:17
costume walking through the land? Where
34:19
does that fit? See, I'd throw him in
34:20
Tomorrowland.
34:21
>> I want Star Wars weekends back.
34:24
>> In Tomorrowland?
34:25
>> Yes. Not in Galaxy
34:27
>> and Hollywood Studios.
34:29
>> But I want Star Wars weekends back. Yes.
34:31
>> I think that uh Darth Vader Goofy. I
34:35
think Princess Leia Mini. Um, I cannot
34:38
remember who Donald was. I think Jedi
34:40
Mickey. All of that
34:42
>> I need once again.
34:43
>> Excellent point. No one hates a fandom
34:45
as much as their own fans. I think that
34:47
is the challenge slash whatever you want
34:50
to say.
34:51
>> And what is over here loving Star Wars
34:52
>> fandoms? What will Grug be like when he
34:55
becomes a grown Jedi warrior and who
34:57
could voice himself?
34:59
that is going to be. So, I'm curious
35:02
where Grou ends up in the bigger story
35:05
of of Star Wars. Like, do we see him
35:08
come back for this um Ray standalone
35:12
movie? I don't know. And where did he go
35:15
during the sequels? I don't know. Maybe
35:17
he's getting trained.
35:18
>> Do we find out that like Yoda just had a
35:20
weird way of talking and like [laughter]
35:23
Grou does not talk like that?
35:25
>> Yeah. Who knows? like that that could be
35:27
an that could be a very interesting
35:28
thing. Um I've seen interest I've seen
35:31
long debates about the population
35:33
[laughter] count of this. We're going to
35:35
talk about that later because I'm
35:37
curious about that.
35:38
>> Yeah, I'm really
35:39
>> um that's why playing the Jedi Survivors
35:41
game. I'm sure this is about colors.
35:45
>> Um good call.
35:47
>> See this the problem is I just would
35:48
want a blue lightsaber.
35:50
>> I want a pink lightsaber.
35:51
>> And it's nothing to do with anything.
35:52
I'm just like I like blue. Just like you
35:54
like pink. I like pink.
35:55
>> Um,
35:57
there we go. Um,
36:01
you guys, we did hear about the D23
36:04
Singapore. I think that's going to be
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fantastic. And part of me really wants
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to go, don't you think?
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>> Yes, I would also like to see the
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Muppets as Star Wars characters.
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>> Um, I would. Yeah, the Muppets
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in Star Wars would be fantastic.
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>> Fuzzy's Jar Banks confirmed.
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>> Oh, there you go. There you go. All
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right, Katie, we're running out of time.
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What should people do?
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>> Misa Jedi Waka Waka. You should also go
36:29
to dapsmagic.com. Check out all the
36:30
Disney and positive stuff as it happens.
36:33
Subscribe to our mailing list so you
36:35
don't miss any of it. You can also go to
36:37
dapshq.com
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if you thought this was crazy. Buckle
36:42
in.
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>> Who knows what's going to happen next.
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We never know. But you can head on over
36:45
there and not only get an after show,
36:47
but also support Dap's Magic, which
36:49
would be fantastic, I think. Also, make
36:51
sure to subscribe to our YouTube
36:53
channel. We have a ton of videos going
36:55
up. Some of them are Star Wars, some of
36:57
them are Disney Cruise Line, and some of
36:59
them are everything else because we
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still have a bunch from around the world
37:03
as well that we need to post. But that
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is all the time we have for you this
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week. So, we will see you around the
37:09
corner.
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>> Bye.
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>> [music]
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