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Welcome foolish mortals to this very
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haunted podcast called Photo Nicks. I'm
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I want to hear what you were going to
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I was say we we are your hosts, your
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ghost hosts for this episode.
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That is right. It is Halloween time.
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Actually, it's been Halloween time if
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you've been to Disney parks for already
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like two months, but we thought we would
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be somewhat traditional
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and stick with October for Halloween.
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So, I am wearing my Foolish Mortals
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shirt by Foolish Mortals Supply Company.
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I think I got it right. And uh Clocky
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has his Haunted Mansion shirt on, right?
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Which this is the only Haunted Mansion
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shirt I have. I I don't know about you.
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I have Okay, so I have this one. I have
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I have one that I got at a thrift store
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and I should have I shouldn't have
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gotten it, but I got it anyway.
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it's purple with green writing on it
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with the Haunted Mansion facade.
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Kind of like the movie.
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Not even. It's weird. Okay.
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If we do this for another year, another
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Haunted Mansion episode,
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and then I would I have a mashup shirt
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that is the hitchhiking ghost but
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dressed for Tiki from Tiki Co in and
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Oh, I love that. That's
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I I do enjoy that one a lot.
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So, as you may have guessed, we are
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going to be focusing on the Haunted
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Mansion today. But before we do that,
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comments. Did I miss anything, Clocky? I
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All right. Should we Should we head to
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New Orleans Square? Let's head to New
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All right. Here we have a photo. And
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this one, I happen to know it because we
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talked about this photo series in our
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last episode, but this is a photo from
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1982 of the Haunted Mansion facade. So,
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we've got the four pillars. We have the
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exit only sign over on the right. So, as
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we come into the Haunted Mansion from
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what would have been actually in 1982,
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which would have been bear country, we
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just guests. We have a guest sitting
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with a stroller. We have guests waiting
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in line. And as we mentioned on the last
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episode, more ball caps and more
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Hawaiian shirts than you.
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You know, we also have
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I don't know what's happening, but if
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you look at the two guests that are
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leaving the mansion right now, they're
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looking to their right. The couple next
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to them are looking over our right,
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their left. The couple next to them are
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looking over at something with looks
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like maybe the lady's smiling. And the
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people behind them are also looking
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over. and the people in the foreground.
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Everybody's looking at something
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right there and I and we of course can't
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I would bet there is a character that
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I think it's a very good guess
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because that tends to grab people's
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right? someone coming out and and I
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would say this, I bet characters in the
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80s would have walked in that area in
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general because there wouldn't have been
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that much going on because this is pre
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Splash, pre-Tiana's Bayou Adventure and
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pre-pl Splash Mountain in 1982. So that
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would have been an area to have been
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I'm trying to see no garbage cans in
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this this photo it looks like, which is
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One stroller. But also next to the
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stroller, I see a woman who is likely
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smoking a cigarette, which is always
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Oh, yeah. That's a different era, too.
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I do like the uh sweater draped over the
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like over the shoulders. That That's
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very uh classic. We do have the Hawaiian
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shirt, as you mentioned.
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Hawaiian shirt. We have the We have a a
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lumberjack plaid with suspenders and a
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the glasses there in the front.
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1982 mansion here. Uh the other thing we
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should note about the mansion currently
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at this point is what is not in front of
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the mansion right now.
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Oh, that in recent years has been right
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in our way. If we're looking at the
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mansion from this direction,
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Mhm. is missing. The other thing is
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missing, and this is something at some
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point we'll go through facades of the
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mansion, but no wreath.
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And no bunting, no black bunting. So,
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it's kind of a I would say it's a clean
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mansion, which I love. Like, to me, this
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looks more like a true mansion. Like, it
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it looks like a mansion you would walk
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up to. And I think that's that's really
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fun to see. Uh we also just because of
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the day and age that we live in now,
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there is no uh carriage house at the
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exit which would be on the right side of
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where we're looking right now.
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But we do have the giant
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trees or whatever they're called. Yeah.
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Yeah. The I'm forgetting their name now,
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but they are there. Cypresses.
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I hope we get more of those someday.
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Yeah, they're great for blocking. I
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think I think it's a good way of ending
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Yeah, because right now you can look
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back and see the burm if you're in the
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What's next? All right. Well, we got to
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We have to get in line. And so here we
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again this this is where we talk about
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uh knowing where we are and
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having been in that queue, the old
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queue, the new queue, the older queue,
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but this is the old queue for Haunted
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This is I I'm going to say it right now.
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This is the 70s. This has got to be
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amazing. I love the guy with the hat and
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the camera on the left.
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And and obviously the guy on the right
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with the beard. Epic.
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Yeah, the beard and long hair.
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Shaggy right behind him.
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I know bounding wasn't a big thing in
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the 70s, but this guy was ready to see
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Shaggy and Scooby-Doo.
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Uhhuh. He's looking for some ghost, man.
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He's in the right place.
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He's in the right place.
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But I think we have another Hawaiian
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shirt back here. We have some stripes.
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I think you're right. We've got the 70s
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collars on everyone. Oh, and here we go.
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And we have someone smoking in line.
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Oh, you're right. And those are awesome
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Oh, and she's wearing a hat, too. I
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didn't realize that was a hat. But the
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floppy hat is pretty awesome as well.
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Um, this may not be the most um
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it may not have the most of Disneyland,
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but it has the Disneyland experience.
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And I love this picture so much. Like it
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it cracks me up. Like I think you were
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probably just scanning past them as we
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were picking photos cuz I got to help
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this time by the way guys. Um uh as we
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were picking pictures for this episode
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for this Halloween edition and I was
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like we cannot skip this this photo. It
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All right. Yeah, this is great. Plus you
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can and the queue. It's amazing to see.
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Baseball hat in the back it looks like.
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Yeah. Yeah. At least one baseball cap.
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This might be the first episode we have
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not seen a garbage can for yet.
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Oh yeah. We're we're two photos in. Zero
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Mhm. And I I don't know if we're going
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Oh, now we're inside the mansion. I
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don't think we're going to get a garbage
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can in here. But here we have
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This is pretty epic. Also,
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no flash pictures, please. But
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it already exists. Someone's already
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taken it, so we're going to talk about
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it. But here we have the bride in the
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attic of the haunted mansion.
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And and you can see her heart glowing.
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You can see her heart glowing. Is this
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I am not sure because I'm the face is
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throwing me a little bit.
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also she looks very much like something
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out of Doctor Who with the the Flash,
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which is a little bit terrifying.
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And her right hand that's holding the
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very much uh looks like it could be a
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that's about to take over the mansion.
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I'm missing my Haunted Mansion book.
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That that might give us a tell. So, hold
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on. Okay, you find your haunted mansion
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book. Um, I love that she's carrying
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or pictures, flowers still as he's
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looking for a book of pictures. That's
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what we're going for.
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He's turning the pages. Turning the
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pages. So, I've got the Jason Sell's
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Haunted Mansion book.
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And I don't see the bride through the
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But it is incredible to look at a flash
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It's It's a choice, that's for sure. Um,
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So, looking at I I just found a thing
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online real quick. It looks to me like
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it could be either 1.0 or 3.0 because
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according to this graphic I'm looking
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69 is the first version obviously. Then
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there's one in the 70s that has much
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skeleton look in the face.
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Okay. Um, but that one is holding.
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This is the trick is you can't tell
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which one is holding the candles the way
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these pictures are. So, uh, that one.
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Let's look at the face. That one.
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I wish we could see the face better.
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I don't know if you know this is where
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this is where we need to crowdsource
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because this guy has a great graphic but
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it it just doesn't uh
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show it enough through the years.
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Yeah, it's hard to tell. I can I mean I
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Yeah, I was saying you can see which one
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this is, but but as far as a breakdown
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so it looks like 1.0 did not have the
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candle or the flowers cuz I see her left
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Uh 2.0 had I think it's the third
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version. So, it's the 70s and early 80s
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cuz 2.0 has the weird like skeleton face
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and kind of the old hag hair. And then
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uh her bushel of fl or bouquet of
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flowers is very big and uh and rounded.
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And then you look at the third version
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and her flowers are a little bit
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She has Let's look at the dress too.
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Oh, you know what? Looking at Does it
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look like she has a crown on top of her
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cuz that would be the first version of
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the crowned version would be the three
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I'm I'm gonna guess just looking at the
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pictures I'm seeing on
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whatever this Magic Key Facebook group
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To me, it looks like it's the mid70s to
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this is so difficult.
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I think it's the mid70s to 1989 version.
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it's either that one or the one after it
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and I feel like this picture doesn't
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um No, because Yeah, I'm look So now I'm
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looking at the same photo you're looking
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mid70s through ' 89,
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which makes sense for the
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well those the photos aren't necessarily
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looking at when this photo would have
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been taken would have been around that
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time. But yeah, that's
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and that's how we figured things out.
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And and I don't know if there's a tell
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in that piece of furniture to the left
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or not. Like I don't know if that tells
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Um but maybe somebody else does know and
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they can tell us. But
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the like bent wood chair.
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It's just a weird altar, you know. Yeah.
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This always has been one of my favorite
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scenes though in the Haunted Mansion,
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especially the uh the ghost playing the
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piano just before this.
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Yeah, the things they've done with that
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and the mansion. I I feel like the even
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with the most recent change to the
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attic, the attic has always been a solid
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place to have some great
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eerie things before we get into the
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I'm kind of sad that we don't have the
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candle man year round. I think he should
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I would be okay with that
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cuz it doesn't do much. But you know
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what's great about the Haunted Mansion
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is I feel like every couple of years
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they're like, "Hey, let's tinker with
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this some more." Maybe even every year
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they tinker with it. I don't know. So I
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I would say there's always a chance.
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Okay, I'm looking at another photo.
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that has late7s versus October 75.
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And it's almost like it's in between the
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two based on the fabric that they use
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for covering the bride.
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Do you suppose they change the fabric
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through the years just when you you know
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it sits there for a while so they had to
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Yes. And I would say, hang on. This is,
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let me go to the actual page.
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Like to something that looks to me like
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it could help us narrow it down is the
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drapes like that kind of come around the
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front of her like just below her waist,
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Turn blue. 1995. I mean, we know this
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which is 3.0. Is that what you think? Or
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that man, they did it. Now, now you
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realize how much they actually change
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the bride on a regular basis looking at
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all these different iterations of it.
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Well, and it doesn't help. The Flash
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actually works against us in this favor
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or in this moment just because it does
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what we're used to seeing,
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right? And it's hard to tell if her eyes
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What's the level of creepiness in this
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Right. I mean, it's I I don't want this
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in my in in my house.
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this this way, but it wouldn't it
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doesn't bother me on the attraction.
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Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah.
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All right, let's move on to
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the little Leota. Now, we're going to
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have the same questions. What year is
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I think it helps that she's carrying all
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of the stuff, doesn't it?
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Did this come from the same uh
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I don't It could have because if you're
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going to take flash photos, you're going
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and it took that long for it to
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Like this is a fantastic
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example of why you don't use flash
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photography on dark rides. Um
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because what it what it does do is is
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they do some really cool lighting
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effects to make things that
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they're they're creating really good
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effects, you know, that that are dark
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that suddenly glow that uh maybe they
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reflect in a certain way from a black
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light, but when you do a flash, it's a
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completely different uh approach and um
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Yeah, I I realize who we need for this
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Somebody ask them for us, please.
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I bet I bet Jeff would know.
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That would not surprise me at all.
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Well, so when this episode goes up,
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like, "Hey, hey, what what year is
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to look at it for two seconds and be
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like, "Oh, well that's this this here."
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Because see how she's holding that and
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her face is turned to the right.
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The other odd thing that I would point
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out on this attract on this part of the
19:46
attraction and something we noticed in a
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photo that we're not using on this
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all the debris here.
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Is is that debris or is that people
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throwing M&M's or or peanuts or whatever
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the object? I think the other
20:04
interesting thing as I'm looking at this
20:05
too, because there's not a ton in this
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look at how they used the moss, I'm
20:10
going to call it, to frame her,
20:14
Like that's a little detail that
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somebody clearly thought about of like,
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hey, let's make an aura around her with
20:21
with moss or whatever that's supposed to
20:25
yeah, the ex the excess light of the
20:27
projection is going to catch some of
20:31
So rather than it catching the wall, let
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it catch a a petal or a leaf.
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Yep. Like it it almost uh flips the
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picture in that regard.
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That's really cool. That one's really
20:50
And now we're back to It's incredible.
20:55
We We should look at this one with the
20:56
first one. How incredibly light the
20:58
Haunted Mansion looks. Uh-huh.
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Just it's just brighter overall. And
21:05
that's not just the exposure of the time
21:06
of day this photo was taken versus black
21:08
and white, but was the bird uh the bird
21:12
bath in the first picture. Oo, good
21:15
point. Let's go back.
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I mean, there there these are almost
21:24
again when we talk about like like 100
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photos of each other. Yeah. Within
21:30
They're within foot of each other. I
21:31
don't even think it's it's feet, but
21:35
actually Oh, okay. So, look at the
21:37
So, there's a bush there or something
21:40
So, the fencing and where everyone's
21:42
sitting and we go back to the 1982.
21:46
I guess the fence is about the same.
21:50
I think there's more um shrubberies. I'm
21:53
right? Which makes me think that maybe
21:56
the bird bath isn't there because it
21:57
looks like there's a bush in that spot
21:59
because you see the bush on the right in
22:01
the other picture also.
22:03
So we see these two pillars here.
22:06
We could use those as reference points
22:08
right? Yeah. So it's
22:14
only they shot at landscape. So there's
22:17
two pillars. Yeah. The the
22:20
Yeah, there's a bush where that Yeah.
22:31
And then you just look at the colors
22:33
people are wearing and the hats and
22:37
the jeans. The jeans. The jean shorts.
22:46
This guy's still wearing, you know, a
22:48
white or or a pale blue shirt with
22:55
You can actually see people going into
22:56
the attraction in this one,
22:58
right? And zero garbage hands.
23:02
I was just about to say that. I'm like,
23:04
and I think we've just had our
23:06
cuz I think that's a
23:07
first since we've been
23:16
So, this is our first trash canless uh
23:20
episode since we've been tracking them.
23:28
It is interesting, too, how much more
23:30
open the second level feels.
23:35
And I'm sure that's just a difference in
23:38
paint color or something cuz it's kind
23:41
of a cream color right now. And I feel
23:43
like maybe back then it was more of a
23:44
white color which just made it feel
23:51
Yeah. I think I mean that's something
23:56
lower maintenance if it's a cream color.
23:58
Oh, absolutely. Versus keeping this as
24:01
stark white as it is. Well, my
24:03
grandparents have a house that well had
24:05
a house that has pillars like that and
24:08
is white and and I can remember as a kid
24:11
my uncle would have to power spray it
24:13
once a year because it would just not
24:18
just weather and everything.
24:23
It could be fall too, doesn't it?
24:25
Yeah, with with these trees losing
24:29
Yep. Oh, and you don't see that tall
24:32
tree on the right. Maybe it'd be a
24:34
little further back.
24:35
Yeah, that's a hard I'll go back and
24:38
tell these people to take a landscape.
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Yeah, hop in the hop in the TARDIS and
24:44
and we'll make that happen.
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H. Yep. There we have
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five Haunted Mansion photos.
24:57
So, which one was your favorite?
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Beat you to the punch this time.
25:04
This one's hard to beat. All right.
25:09
And because it's got the most
25:13
that we've got to figure out this the
25:18
I now knowing how much she has changed
25:21
within one with without changing the
25:26
how much has changed about her.
25:29
Now I want to know this that'll give me
25:31
the exact year on this.
25:33
Yeah, I think so too. Um, I agree with
25:37
the one I'd want to print is the first
25:40
but this is this is my favorite.
25:42
I mean, my other favorite is is the
25:45
Q-ine with the people cuz that's just
25:50
like you also wonder like what what was
25:53
the intention behind this picture?
25:56
Because it's not like you're taking a
25:58
picture of your group because there's a
26:00
person in between you
26:02
and no one's posed. Yeah, like this is
26:05
such a very random like is this a kid
26:07
just had a camera and like click or I
26:10
Or or was this the first picture in the
26:12
roll that someone was like, "Well, take
26:14
a photo and it doesn't matter if it's a
26:15
good photo because we're just making
26:17
sure that we're the next photo we take
26:22
When you had to do things like that.
26:23
Oh, so we had to get this camera.
26:26
That's That's an amazing camera. And I
26:28
bet it had that really awesome like
26:29
square flash thing that would turn
26:36
So So your your your favorite is is the
26:40
Oh, I I think so. This one's the one
26:42
that that definitely we both
26:45
were drawn to, I think, the moment we
26:47
saw it just because it's
26:50
I think it's the most fun to try to
26:52
figure out to date. And um
26:56
there is an intrigue that comes with the
26:58
bride because she's changed so much
27:00
through the years that uh I I just think
27:03
from a historical standpoint it's fun
27:07
And as much as we say no flash
27:08
photography, I will I will take what is
27:13
Yeah, we didn't do it.
27:14
The the the hypocrite photo Nick and me.
27:18
There's no hypocrite. This was for all
27:21
we know there's a chance that this
27:23
picture was taken before we were even
27:25
born. How would we tell them no?
27:30
And it's not ruining my experience on
27:31
the Haunted Mansion. So
27:34
yeah, I would have been annoyed back
27:38
That one and the um the dinosaurs,
27:43
The hard part with the dinosaurs. I've
27:45
got I've got those photos. I've got
27:46
photos of the dinosaurs and
27:48
you have the glass between
27:49
the glass between. So any photo is just
27:53
because you're just getting a you're
27:54
just getting a flash.
28:01
All right. Well, if you have enjoyed
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this episode of Photo Nicks, this
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Halloween Haunted Mansion episode,
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please take a moment to give us a
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rating. Also, leave a comment. join the
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conversation, especially if you know
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when the bride or Madame Leotaa pictures
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were taken, but any of them really.
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Like, we'd we'd love feedback on all of
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those. And uh if you have ideas for
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future episodes, please let us know. If
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you have photos, we'd love them. And uh
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we'll consider getting them even in an
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episode. That could be fun, too. And uh
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we hope you're having a very happy
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Halloween season. And we will have one
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more haunted episode this month for you
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as well, but we're not going to tell you
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But wait till the next one.
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Yes, exactly. So, have a very happy
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Halloween and uh we will look look
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forward to geeking out about haunted
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Halloween photos or something like that
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in the very near future.
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Be sure to bring your death certificate
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or your negatives. We'll we'll go ahead
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and process those mother.
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Yeah, that would work, too. All right.